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  Today's Facts Give Us Insight to the Past

  by professor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i must admit, when the jw pedophile story first broke, i looked at it as just another bad story.

  yes, the story showed us another bad aspect of the witness creed, but with catholocism also being exposed at the same time with this issue, i looked at it as sad, but not very important.. now, with reports coming from around the world, it has come to my attention that this story gives us a real insight into the dark world of jehovah's witnesses.

  we have now right before our eyes had it proven to us that the watchtower society will lie to us and cover up its mistakes and try to continue on as if nothing has happened.

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  A Paduan

  You are fore-given professor - can't you tell?

  paduan
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  The Morality of Teenage Baptism

  by metatron in

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  2. friends

  if the watchtower claims it only does what the bible says.

  and does not "go beyond the things that are written", then by.

  what authority does it encourage the baptism of teenagers?.

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  A Paduan

  I'd have my new born babe baptised. And for those who definitely wouldn't - all I can say is - who the hell do you think they're being presented to? God, or a beast?

  Are they going to see a good Father or a nasty judge? Are you better of NOT being His adopted son if you're a bit unruly. Who do you think He is?

  I don't even know what to make of jw baptism - when I think more into it, I get general feelings of "get away from me with that stuff".

  paduan
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  IF YOU COULD HAVE JW'S OUTLAWED, WOULD YOU?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since so many are vehemently opposed to jehovah's witnesses, if it was in your power, would you simply outlaw the witnesses?

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  A Paduan

  The light of truth exposes wt practice - only more truth is necessary.
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  Should We Be Imitators

  by Satanus in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  wt always claimed that everyone imitates somebody.

  they said that they were imitating jehovah, jesus, isaiah, or some other bible character in some ways or another.

  they claimed the rest of mankind were imitating their own idols, heros, and ultimately, the devil.

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  A Paduan

  Be it that what you point to regarding Paul is accurate, it simply verifies the truth that he isn't perfect - a known truth - nor does it impact on the inspired truth of the text.

  << So, the word christian would mean little christ, or little messiah. >> The noun is simply in reference to christ - i.e. pertaining to christ.

  If a person has a 'divine spirit at his core' he still needs to subdue an unruly flesh, as men are adopted by the divine, not simply of the same 'nature' as Christ. Limited by our condition, imitation of Christ is a helpful exercise - our mentor and brother with whom we spend the rest of our time - reign with.

  It has been described and spoken of as 'reigning with Him for a thousand years'.

  paduan

  Edited by - a paduan on 3 October 2002 4:1:3
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  Should We Be Imitators

  by Satanus in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  wt always claimed that everyone imitates somebody.

  they said that they were imitating jehovah, jesus, isaiah, or some other bible character in some ways or another.

  they claimed the rest of mankind were imitating their own idols, heros, and ultimately, the devil.

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  A Paduan

  In that very instance for one. He's a for real christian, but he isn't Jesus. The desire of his spirit though is to be as Christ - it is his flesh that hinders him - so he imitates with his flesh and lives according to his spirit - that his spirits' yes may be yes and his no may be no.

  If he lived according to his flesh he would be bind his spirit. He prayed and didn't receive physical relief, but what his spirit really prayed for is what he received. The 'imitation' phrase is pretty much 'best not to live according to the will of your flesh'.

  I think I know what your getting at, but it sounds like "because they're claiming to be the real thing then they should in a way be Christ", and I think that's some left over jw stuff - that you can be because he was just a man too.

  They're the real thing in spirit, but not in flesh like Jesus, and you're spot on in 'knowing' that. Quite unlike jws may think, you just can't be that, or be that if you try and try - but by marginalising the will of the flesh you can be at peace and agreement with your soul - "avenge me of my adversary".

  Paul revealed the truth in his statement - you can only 'imitate' with your flesh.

  Keep thinking and unhypocritically imitating.

  paduan

  Edited by - a paduan on 2 October 2002 16:57:30
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  Sign Here For Death

  by openminded in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the two biologicals signed on that dotted line.. putting my life in perspective by strokes of a pen.. this pocket-sized document heralds their premeditated.

  crime.

  with support from some elders, only a bloody.

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  The judgement of Solomon condemns the jw shunning of their own children.

  By rash judgement a child would be torn in two, and quiet those concerned with self-interest.

  However, the one who loved cared not for self-interest but only for the wholeness of the child.

  The Judge of course knows all this, with the one who loves remaining unaware before the decision.

  paduan

  Edited by - a paduan on 2 October 2002 10:6:18
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  Are we wrong to attack the Elders?

  by MARTINLEYSHON in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i see a number of board members alluding to the elders as antagonists.

  this is amoral.

  there is an inference that these ones ( elders ) can think for themselves, they cannot.

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  [quote ] The reality is that most of these doctrines are relatively harmless [/quote]

  I went out, threatened a family I didn't even know, and then managed to keep them bound up, and used them to work for myself and my associates, for years. While I had a loan of them they were even pretty nasty to other innocent unsuspecting folks who wouldn't join them, but, oh well, I don't think it did them any harm though.

  What do you think? Looks harmless - it doesn't seem to have affected Me.

  paduan
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  It`s "FAMILY " Month at the Watchtower

  by Beans in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  yes brothers and sister the focus over the next few months is how to maintain good family life.

  but not only that the watchtower will also tell you why there has been such an increase in single mothers in the last few years!

  as you know in the truth this does not exist as the perfect loving families can only be jehovahs witnesses.

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  A Paduan

  I would have no problem in voting jws as being banned from using the english language for eliciting so many lies. May the Lord make them dumb.

  Again the old third person commentary - this time the "various aspects of their community service".

  Q. who said that their work is "community service"?

  A. As always - themselves.

  I say without reserve that "their service" is an impediment to decency.

  paduan

  Edited by - a paduan on 2 October 2002 9:35:19
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  watchtower double talk

  by needs_lots in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  cygnus; .

  i read with amazement your post in defence of the watch tower pr release.

  i do want to know which bethel you are stationed at and how long it has been since you stepped outside the walls of the compound.

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  A Paduan

  The abused has already engaged the sinner alone, but the abuser still abused - so then a couple of others were told, and typically the abuser avoids responsibility - then the whole church is told - still they do nothing.

  Treat them as you would a taxcollector - they are of the world.

  paduan
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  Should We Be Imitators

  by Satanus in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  wt always claimed that everyone imitates somebody.

  they said that they were imitating jehovah, jesus, isaiah, or some other bible character in some ways or another.

  they claimed the rest of mankind were imitating their own idols, heros, and ultimately, the devil.

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  A Paduan

  By his words, paul admits being a faker, then ecourages others to also pratice being what they are not. Hypocracy at the very germination point of christianity.

  Paul admits being a faker - so by doing such he's not a hypocrite.